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Timothy Stephens's avatar

Makis strikes me as the kind of person who expects the entire world to conform to his desires and behaviors, and who is both confused and incensed when it does not. Such people cannot be permitted to care for others precisely because they do not care for others.

Excellent journalism here.

Pamela A Everett Goodman's avatar

Ah ha haha, ewwww gross man who blocked me on Twitter in 2021 for calling his grift. He’s on all the fav medical bought pharma freedom podcasts 😂 The novirusinc frauds ( which are growing daily) now platform this dude saying “ give him a chance 🤣🤣🤣 yeah, like No fucking way.

That was a doozy Vaet. I’m done for the day now 😆

OpenVAET's avatar

Glad you liked it 😂!

вℓση∂є вαη∂ιт's avatar

Thanks for this very informative article. I’ve been following him with great interest after he announced his medical license application had been approved in the State of Florida. To date, and I check weekly, there is still no medical license listed for William Makis.

OpenVAET's avatar

Correct.

Just more Makis being Makis.

Check his "Replies" feed today on X - he has been out-doing himself in the great art of spiraling 🤔

EDIT 7:50PM Paris Time: Now most of said posts have been deleted by Makis - follow-up coming soon.

henjin's avatar

Yesterday Makis deleted his Substack article right after he deleted your comment where you pointed out that his medical license was not listed. He managed to reply to a single comment and to delete your comment, and then he deleted the whole article.

Someone in the comment section was wondering what A Midwestern Doctor was saying about Makis, so I linked to a tweet and Substack post by AMD. So Makis probably realized it was a great self-own to draw attention to what canceledmouse and AMD were saying.

вℓση∂є вαη∂ιт's avatar

I knew he’d delete my comment which is why I took a screenshot of it before he could. Liars are so predictable.

OpenVAET's avatar

You hadn't anticipated that he would blow up his whole Substack article, tho 🤓😂

вℓση∂є вαη∂ιт's avatar

True! 🤷‍♀️

Gabriel's avatar

There's a lot here but it's absolutely infuriating to see how people's desperation was weaponized against them by an opportunist.

Dan Fournier's avatar

Would you mind please posting who exactly wrote this piece? Who are its authors? What are their credentials exactly?

Who are employed by OpenVAET or write for them?

All I could find (thus far) about OpenVAET is that it is an organisation in France that initially looked at C19 vaccine effects data and published related articles. Your Substack About page has nothing on it.

If you can post more information about this, I think it would show your transparency (as an "Open" VAET).

OpenVAET's avatar

I'm an anonymous author, self funded.

My (also self-funded) collaborators are around the world.

Nothing I provide comes without evidence, which means that people are free to appraise the data I have organised with their own brain - or not.

And given that I have a habit of poking the pharmaceutical industry ; and various nefarious multi-millionaires, and dislike to lose time defending myself, I'll stay anonymous until that's not an option.

Ah, did I mention that I owed you absolutely nothing ..?

Dan Fournier's avatar

Dude, or is it dude'ette? Not sure, as you are still cowarding behind the veil of anonymity. Everything I write on my Substack (fournier.substack.com), I OWN IT, as my name is on every single one of my articles. Do I get everything right 100% of the time? Absolutely not. But I own it and am not afraid do show who I am and what I stand by. Perhaps if you garner enough fortitute, you could do the same.

As for Dr. Makis, you can put all the "facts" and receipts you want, but it DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT that he's helped to cure over 9,000 patients.

And I am not merely regurgitating this from Dr. Makis, his tweets, his Substack articles. I am affirming it first hand since his coaching and protocols have actually helped my own father-in-law who is in his 70s with advanced stage throat cancer (who had probably just a few months to live) but is now doing absolutely great (as per his latest hospital tests and blood work, cancer markers are all significantly down). He has energy and is back to his own self.

So, no matter how much you try to disparage Dr. Makis and his work, sorry bro (or sister?), it just ain't gelling with the audience (see the numerous comments in this space to this effect).

And why is it that you don't talk about Big Pharma and how they are incentivised to treat cancer patients for windfall financial profits with very costly old methods (such as chemo) whereby on average merely one patient yields them about a million bucks (compared to the use of Ivermectin, Menbendazole, and Fenbendazole which are way way cheaper)?

How about you put your talents and efforts in to exposing **them** instead? Because, I guarantee if you did that your audience on Substack would be much bigger and in agreement with you than it is now.

OpenVAET's avatar

"Dude" it is. If you spend about five minutes doing OSINT, you'll find various online conferences I've given on corruption in the Pfizer trial data. And I'm certainly not your brother - everyone in the family has a high IQ.

I'm very glad that you do not operate "under the veil of anonymity", Dan. Let's just say that your insignificance serves as a curtain for you.

How many credible death threats have you been the target of, exactly?

I can see that you "own" everything you post on Substack very well - for example, when you blindly shared, like a donkey, Makis's fraudulent fundraiser, in which he systematically lied to the public on every point of his appeal:

https://makisw.substack.com/cp/153183798

So you're not exactly independent. You are either incompetent or complicit with the target of my article. Which would you prefer?

Secondly, which article of yours is, in your opinion, the most damaging to the pharmaceutical industry or to any other significant interest?

Mine would be this one, co-authored with various authors, whose name is public, or who prefered to stay anons:

https://blog.openvaet.info/p/pfizerbiontech-c4591001-trial-audit

For none of us did that parameter matter; what mattered was the quality of the information and the receipts provided.

I skimmed some of your content but could not find anything of interest. You publish a lot and seem to focus more on quantity than quality - though perhaps I am mistaken and missed something worthwhile - in which case, please link your best piece, so I can appraise it.

Lastly, I'm very glad that the Joe Tippens protocol may have been of use to your father-in-law. That is called anecdotalism, and, as I pointed out in the second paragraph of my article, treatments are not at all the subject of my piece. If you want to endorse sexual harassment at work, victim-shaming, and other deviant behavior, that is your right and your privilege.

If you want my name, I suggest you get to work and find me. But as I explained above, I am afraid you are completely incompetent, so I expect I will remain anonymous for quite a while.

Best regards.

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OpenVAET's avatar

Lots to unpack here.

1. You start with "laughable", then immediately bring up your 10.5k subscribers twice. As I said: quantity over quality. You spend your time pumping out clickbait with little to no added value.

I work for weeks to months on a single article, and produce original data.

Of course you have more subscribers. The difference is that everyone who matters reads me, and nobody learns anything from reading you.

I had never even heard of you before you showed up in my comments section, and I certainly don't feel like I was missing out.

2. "Is Substack now suppressing conservative / contrarian voices"… So you've just discovered the concept of shadow banning? Wow.

And your "work" on that consisted of… interviewing someone else who actually did the work. I see.

We clearly have very different definitions of the word "work."

Congratulations on repackaging someone else's research to tell us something anyone with a functioning brain already knew.

3. You even write articles announcing when you pass another subscriber milestone, or discussing the metrics of your other posts. That's almost adorable.

I'm glad to see you're not overestimating the intelligence of your average audience.

And if I click on the "My Top 10 Most Viewed Articles & Podcasts" link, it just sends me back to the top of the page, which suggests you don't even understand how hyperlinks work. Shocking.

I skimmed two of your articles and couldn't find a single original point that taught me anything I didn't already know.

So let me ask again, in very simple terms: when I ask for your "work", am I somehow being unclear?

I'm not asking for your commentary.

I'm asking for one original contribution that you personally produced.

Not ten links. Just one.

4. "As for calling out Big Pharma, I've been doing that on my Substack and even way before…"

And then you link me to an article by... "libertyacademy", an ANONYMOUS account with a Guy Fawkes mask... quoting opioids-for-children Jane Ruby....

https://blog.openvaet.info/p/from-opioids-and-fraud-to-maga-and

... Are you aware that you come across as a complete, utter, and irredeemable joke?

5. I'm not "lecturing you" or "downplaying your efforts in the space."

I'm telling you that your "efforts" are a joke, that "low IQ" might as well be written across your forehead, and that what you're calling an argument doesn't even rise to the level of a shipwreck.

I would suggest that you delete your comments out of shame, but I archived them. That way, if I ever come across you again and need proof that your credibility is below zero, I'll have it.

I’ll suspend you for 30 days now for insulting my intelligence and costing me precious time. Come back later if you want to humiliate yourself further.

Gabriel's avatar

I'm not gonna lie, I've laughed out loud quite a bit this morning catching up on this exchange. I had assumed @Dan Fournier had given up embarrassing himself because he never replied to my reply on my post: https://gaberocks.substack.com/p/on-fear/comment/238110455

I didn't realize he spent the last week continuing to dig himself into a deeper hole. What stood out to me the most was using "you'd be more popular if you played ball" as an argument. This is exactly the mechanism that allows corruption and abuse to thrive.

It is one of the primary reasons I've largely tuned out of the health freedom space lately because it seems that a lot of people don't want to actually end pharma's abuses, but rather just want their own slice of the pie. Makis likely isn't even the worst example of this in but he's at least a documented one we can learn from.

I have a better question Dan, do you have any better examples of bad actors in our space that you've held accountable with your journalism? If Makis is so unfairly maligned, clearly you must have a litany of well-documented cases of the actual villains in our midst. I ask this because if you don't criticize anyone in the movement at all then you're just a cheerleader at best.

Ike Yeadon's avatar

You're boasting about pumping out addle-brained slop.

Laura Keres's avatar

Same thing, who are you? Why take the time and money to uncover Makis when you have plenty of evil people to choose from? Why him? I want to see your credentials. If you have anything to hide, you should be able to do so. Im not defending Makis I just learned to be skeptical until proven so

OpenVAET's avatar

I just answered kindly to your question in the very comment you're replying to - which makes me fear that your understanding capacities may be very limited.

Why should I care about what you think, tell me ..?

If you read me for a bit more than a month, you'll know that I covered numerous "leading figures" before, from Jane Ruby, to Ethical Skeptic, to Sasha Latypova, etc.

Every time, I provided every receipt required.

Tell me which information you think is erroneous & should be better sourced if you want - but don't think that you're in position to ask me to doxx myself, please, that's simply ridiculous.

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OpenVAET's avatar

"Hey, could you dox yourself so I don't have to check a footnote?"

But you're very welcome, it was an excellent question !

Here, have also this 30 days ban, for being a walking insult to intelligence 🤨

Anonymous Media Group's avatar

Why would you need that information?

Ross S's avatar

I’ve been following him for almost 2 years but his claims about the current Alberta Premiere and her colleagues seemed shocking and over the top. I’m glad I stumbled into this Substack to realize Maki’s seems like a con-man. Time to cancel my unpaid subscription. Many thanks for this disturbing news.

OpenVAET's avatar

You're most welcome ; thanks for taking the time to read it !

John M. Uhlich's avatar

The only thing that matters is if the accusations against Alberta politicians and medical establishment are true or not….not if they seem “over the top”. Need you be reminded on how Big Pharma and medical establishment demonizes ANYONE who has a contrary opinion? Docs lost their licenses calling into question the safety and efficacy of covid jabs.

OpenVAET's avatar

Makis lost his license in 2019 from events in 2016 - when he last practiced.

If anything, the Canadian judges have been excessively patient with him.

John M. Uhlich's avatar

I did a search on why he lost his license and it was due to “threatening” a colleague or employee. It was not clear what the threat was about. Surely you are aware that when the covid scamdemic hit Ivermectin was demonized but now it is recognized as a good therapeutic for covid, which is nothing but a rather mild flu. Mainstream medicine lies ALL the time. It is controlled by Big Pharma. I am not privy to all the beefs against Makis but it seems to me there is a concerted effort to discredit him and given Big Pharma’s track record of attacking and destroying anyone who does not toe their line, it is not inconceivable that Makis was targeted. If he did bad, unprofessional things, then he should pay the price. But something does NOT smell right with you and others attacking him.

OpenVAET's avatar

He lost his licence over threatening Marguerite Wieler, which is detailed in this article you've apparently very partially read before to comment. It happened in 2017, years before COVID, and years before he used Ivermectin in Cancer treatments.

But the incident with Marguerite Wieler was one in a long list - he hadn't worked since January 2016 & the complaints by his sexually harassed staff.

John M. Uhlich's avatar

As far as I am concerned that is a “he said, she said” argument. Masik was on their hit list. Establishment demonizes anyone they do not like and want to shut up. I adhere to “innocent until proven guilty” train of thought. Did Masik do “naughty things”? Maybe. But this whole thing stinks. And you are an admitted shill for Big Pharma and an Ivermectin “skeptic”. I checked the proceeding brought against Masik and it stinks to high heaven. How many docs in US and Canada lost their licenses for skepticism over the now proven deadly covid jabs? Dozens…perhaps hundreds.

OpenVAET's avatar

Passing on the rest of your bad faith of paid Makis subscriber, where have I admitted to be "a shill for big pharma" ?

Be precise please, your next comment will be followed by a 30 days ban to protect my intelligence, if you aren't.

Markker's avatar

I believe he joined TWC but, as Makis or someone said, TWC was not allowed to operate in Canada so didn't take off there. On a salary of $660K, or thereabouts, he'd hardly need a funding page. So, looks like he's just another Snake Oil Salesman. Thank you, Open Vaet, for bringing this to everyone's attention. No, I didn't contribute to his fund, but nearly did!

Joey's avatar

Incredibly disappointing, discouraging, and anger inducing. This man has thousands of followers, minus me now, completely blinded! Thank you for ripping the blind off!

I did at one time wonder, is this guy legit, and I should have listened to my gut and dug into his story much more. Shame on me! I’m not typically gullible!

When you see supposed copies of email after emails, testimonies and screenshots of medical tests numbers from people that his protocols saved, you get excited of course! So, are they all fake??? Is every single story out of his imagination?! Because if it is….he’s extremely talented! What must his wife think? I’m certain she fully believes as many do, that he’s in fact the victim! Which he did a great job at too! This reminds me of how much I adored, Ravi Zacharias and believed he was a real man of God, his teachings incredible……he died, and women started coming forward exposing his sexual harassment towards them and it was proven by his ministry. It’s evil, what Makis has done. The sort of mind that has the capacity to do these things to desperate people is flat out evil. It’s heartbreaking really.

OpenVAET's avatar

Thank you for taking the time to analyse the case with a cold eye.

It doesn't make you gullible to have neglected to listen your gut in this instance. Plenty of people who can't be suspect of failure of intelligence or paranoia have made the same mistake with him - it's very difficult for people mentally sane to understand this type of personality.

As far as "how much of what he presents to the world is fake"... I would say "a major part".

It is evil, and heartbreaking, indeed.

We learn from our mistakes.

Joey's avatar

In this day and age, especially with what happened with the bioweapon….we can’t afford to just close our minds to anything as not being possible! The complexity of deception has caused people to either become much more open minded, or to shut down completely. We saw that with the vax. Those that took it cannot come to admit they’ve been wrong and lied to, even while dying. Along with those that aren’t sick…..yet. Pride. I never want to be so prideful and hard headed that I cannot say, “well, there’s a chance”, and investigate. There’s an incredible amount of controlled opposition, bots as you say? Doctors, scientists, etc right here on Substack are pointing fingers and saying they’re lying, or they’re wrong. Conflicting information is rampant. People looking for answers, trying to trust again, are overwhelmed and give up. WHO do you trust?! Each one claims to be an “expert” in their field! You find out that so many “studies”, published studies, are inaccurate! Lied about. Manipulated to result in the way they need it to! Because it’s not only tied to money, but the underlying depopulation agenda! So many do not want to have to chase down the truth, and when someone like Makis is offering solutions to a devastating disease, they latch hold and refuse to consider it might not be reality. I cannot blame them in their desperation. But I sure can blame those that are preying on them! Cruel and heartless.

OpenVAET's avatar

I agree with you on all points - aside for calling the jabs "a bioweapon". Bioweapon assumes intent - which is extremely hard to substantiate - and it closes the normies' brain to all discussions.

It's a strategy spread by Latypova & other Pfizer-infiltrates to marginalize us.

https://www.openvaet.info/p/the-disastrous-alexandra-sasha-latypova

While talking about an adulterated and untested product is a very easy position to defend which achieves the same result.

Joey's avatar

In light of this it’s clear that much more investigation and analysis is required. However, it made sense to me that its design was indeed a weapon to further along the mass death of the world according to the Agenda 21 and subsequent events. That said, I’ll never close my mind to every possibility! That holds no appeal to me.

Watch your back, as we’ve seen what happens to those that reveal evil! Far too many have paid the ultimate price. I feel that I owe it to them to find the truth. They died for it.

OpenVAET's avatar

Oh it makes sense.

But our only hopes go through obtaining transparency - which involves to convince as many people as we can.

And for that, we must avoid the seductive language-shortcuts and adopt a discourse which doesn't cut us off from the public.

Take care - and trust that I'll watch my back & won't stop either 🫡

gail's avatar

I think his name was Francis Boyles, I forget his title, but he was the bio weapons expert, and defined what a bio weapon was In our congressional record. He defined it authoritatively for our military. And he stated that Covid vaccines were a bio weapon during the Covid pandemic. He lost his life soon after telling the world. Look it up.

OpenVAET's avatar

The fact remains that talking about "bio-weapons" means shutting down the argument with anyone which isn't in the 8 to 12% of the anti-vaccine population. And that you have to establish intent.

Francis Boyles, with all due respect, had shitty acquaintances among which Sasha Latypova, whom I have also covered on this blog. His opinion, which he can't defend anymore, is an opinion - nothing more or less.

Joey's avatar

Yes. That was his name. He indeed was days shy of testifying and died “mysteriously”.

So many have attempting to get the truth out. One wonders what the eleven scientists to go missing and found dead were on to. At least there’s an investigation whereas not for our whistleblowers. I’m sure they’ll come up with more lies to cover, or just “we don’t know”.

Healthy Wellness's avatar

What proportion of fucker-makis's commenters/worshippers are genuine deludos? As opposed to most of this "inorganic," clearly astroturfed, unhinged adulation?

OpenVAET's avatar

Around 90% astroturfing against 10% deludos, so far.

Healthy Wellness's avatar

In general - At one of his "newsletter" postings.

"They're coming to throw me in jail!" Where he grovels for money, leaves them unlocked. Usually good for 200 comments within a day or two.

The crazy cunt shit out 3 or 4 yesterday - https://makisw.substack.com/p/breaking-news-midwestern-doctor-joins

Similar breakdown, I think ...

OpenVAET's avatar

Yeah, he is completely spiraling and his strategy to diminish the considerable reputation damage he has suffered this week is to... pick fights with the biggest accounts whose audience overlaps with his own - by digging up August 2025 posts like they were made yesterday...

What can I say.. the dude is a genius.

Cobton's avatar

Gosh that is quite something. Buyer beware comes to mind.

Dianna b's avatar

Going after doctors that told the truth during covid is all you are doing. One day you will be held accountable. Do you work for Pfizer or Moderna?

OpenVAET's avatar

Laughable, as I've already developped at length why I was going after Makis. Why do you support sexual harassers & frauds ?

I've more valid documentation on Pfizer than you'll find pretty much anywhere else - aside for 2 or 3 Substacks.

https://blog.openvaet.info/p/pfizerbiontech-c4591001-trial-audit

Can you show your own work ?

R W D's avatar

Name an institution NOT wrought with sexual harassment claims. RCMP the military. Canadian government. Private industry. Education system. lol. Not saying it’s ok but the hypocrisy here is loaded. Is he a fraud?? Did he have success in an industry where success is NOT the main objective? Cancer is a money maker. Sv 40 in the Covid shots & that just became a cash cow for the cancer business, didn’t the pharmaceutical companies up their game concerning cancer therapeutics immediately after Covid ?? The ivermectin debate that still rages. lol. The government and health industry just gave 80 % of Canadians a bio weapon ensuring sickness and premature death. To dissect Makis the way you have makes it clear he needs to be discredited. I am not saying he hasn’t make his own mess but the establishment that is pursuing him is as corrupt and evil as they come so there are 3 sides to every story. The public is waking up to reality. But hey most will be dead or too sick or broke to do anything about it. Politics is a game of illusion. The institutions Canadians counted on for health well being and prosperity are proving to be exactly the opposite so your opinion and research means nothing at the end of the day. The health industry is engaged in democide the government is corrupted and not held to account and makis could be just like the politicians, a grifter that is gonna make the best of a bad situation and fill his pockets and run. How many highly respected doctors in Canada went thru similar attacks for sounding the alarm on the bio weapon?? Charles Hoffe. Mark Trozzi. And many many more. How many young doctors are dead. Countries around the world have come to the same consensus on the COVID pysop and vaccines yet Canada is silent or spinning the narrative. Fuck Trudeau broke so many laws he would spend life in prison if the institutions meant to investigate and prosecute had the balls to do it but they are all bought and paid for. If Maki’s is a fraud with a sexual harassment problem he is in good company in Canada and the rest of the world. This is not some anomaly to destroy and discredit an individual that is not going along with the agenda. Jesus fuck the US along with Canada’s support has destroyed whole countries and think nothing of unaliving those that stand in the way. The tactics never change, sexual harassment is the first avenue to destroy a person. Epstein perfected the art. Carney has close ties thru his wife. It’s a big club lol. To quote George Carlin. There hasn’t been a premier or prime minister that hasn’t been caught up in some impropriety. Your article proves the need to discredit this man in a big way rather than let him drift off into obscurity. Not sure how you sleep but am willing to bet you never got any jabs. Is Shawn Buckley next for laying the cards on the table about what Health Canada really stands for?? The perpetrators of the destruction of Canada no longer hide it . It’s in your face daily. They don’t give a fuck about the white generational Canadians that built the country and fought in the wars , no sir they are systematically eliminating us . Shame on you for not having the fortitude to acknowledge all the corruption but targeting one individual that is a thorn in the side of the establishment. Who is the fraud here ??

OpenVAET's avatar

Wow, that's quite a rant, congrats.

I "dissect Makis" the same way I do other chaos agents (Jane Ruby, Sasha Latypova, etc). Because people (who have a brain) need to be provided not only with the receipts, but the understanding of this type of character. We like a job well done, my colleagues & I.

Nobody cares about "bringing down Makis" in Canada - he should have been jailed 25 times and would already be in any other country - that alone tells you he is practical for power in a way (because he makes "conspiracy theorists" look completely unhinged).

You forget that most whistle-blowers are harassed *after* doing something the establishment dislikes. Makis never did something the establishment dislikes - and doesn't even apply anymore the treatments (Lutetium-177) he then used.

Can you tell me which part of the article isn't sufficiently sourced to your taste ?

R W D's avatar

Not a rant lol. Just pointing out the facts of the world we now inhabit. Most people in positions of power could be jailed so not sure your point. People will lie all day long for money or funding or moving up the ladder. When a country engages in purposely harming its citizens economically, socially and medically it is hardly relevant to prove makis’ impropriety. He is just an inconvenient cog in the wheel. Thankfully the blue light technology coupled with endless propaganda and division obscures the reality for most citizens. Don’t take it personal. You have your reasons for holding the opinion and views you do . Soon conflicting opinions and views will cease to be discussed or debated . 😉

OpenVAET's avatar

I can't cover all the grifters & all the chaos agents, but I can provide people with "archetypes".

Makis actively kills people by overselling hopes, and stole hundreds of thousands of dollars to the public. He lies more often than he breathes and his issues have nothing to do with cancer treatments & everything to do with his flaws.

It is my position that a good part of his "popularity" - essentially fake - is a time-bomb grown under our feet. And as I said, he isn't a cog in the wheel. He is a (small) part of the wheel.

In no circumstance will I allow a pathological liar to posture as a leader of the safety advocates if I can do anything to prevent it.

Nothing personal taken ; but your comment was very long 😂

R W D's avatar

They just injected 80 percent of Canadians with a bio weapon proven to contain SV 40 along with nanobots, graphene, heavy metals mercury aluminum and aborted fetal cells , if that isn’t killing people enough for ya and lying about masking, social distancing and burying evidence of the harm done Makis has killed anyone as he hasn’t FORCED by blackmail of job loss and social exclusion anyone. Following his advice is a personal decision affecting no one but the individual person done voluntarily so that is quite different. Strauss herb company and True Hope are examples of prosecution by Health Canada for giving medical advice without a Doctor’s license and both beat Health Canada in court so that argument is full of holes. You are on the same level as these fact checkers lol someone has to be the one to muddy the waters to keep the illusions intact. Before your time matters of this nature fell under operation mockingbird. Not defending Makis but let’s be fair and call a spade a spade. Good day 👋

Ike Yeadon's avatar

Cool story. He's been a malignant fraud for nearly a decade.

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OpenVAET's avatar

That's one comment totally out of topic too many. Come back in 30 days.

Full Name's avatar

Paragraphs are a real thing-suggest you educate yourself on them...

Jaye's avatar

Makis is an incredible warrior. Love him. He has the strength and balls most can only wish for

OpenVAET's avatar

Hello, bot !

You so much didn't read the article that you liked it before to comment.

Tell your incompetent developer to refine that a little by adding a layer of sentiment analysis, please.

Craig Divitto's avatar

Wow! Very detailed expose'. Thank you, from a newly posted Makis supporter. Wish it wasn't so.

OpenVAET's avatar

Thanks to you for taking the time to read it, and keeping an open mind doing so 🙏

It places you in the top tier of the former Makis supporters 🫡

Melblanca's avatar

Wow. That's very good, and I see it in this case. So fitting! This is what I had seen with Makis from almost the beginning. I'm very concerned for people's well-being who have not taken the time to really take a look at him. Just because somebody checks one's box of their confirmation biases, does not make them good, nor does it make them right!

StephanieH's avatar

Still in Canada and not FL? Interesting

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OpenVAET's avatar

Thanks for letting me know you hadn't gotten to the second paragraph yet.

Why don't you take a month off from my comments section, and come back when you've found the time to stop mocking everyone's intelligence?

henjin's avatar

So 4 out of your 5 links were about the Korean cancer incidence study from last year, but it was addressed here by Jeffrey Morris: https://x.com/jsm2334/status/1975558170614325666. And here by me: https://sars2.net/ethical4.html#Paper_about_cancer_incidence_by_vaccination_status_in_South_Korea.

Unvaccinated people tend to have lower health-seeking behavior than vaccinated people, and unvaccinated people tend to be more hesitant to interact with medical services and less likely to get screening for cancer.

In a Japanese study unvaccinated women were much less likely than vaccinated women to get screening for breast cancer. The authors wrote that when they did a regression adjusted for age, socioeconomic variables, and health-seeking behavior traits, "Individuals who remained unvaccinated due to health concerns (incidence rate ratio (IRR) = 0.47, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.29-0.77, p = 0.003) and for other unspecified reasons (IRR = 0.73, 95% CI 0.62-0.86, p < 0.001) were significantly less inclined to opt for screening when compared to their fully vaccinated counterparts." [https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6694/16/9/1783] The cohorts in the Korean study were not even matched by health-seeking behavior traits, but only by a comorbidity index, insurance level, age, sex, and history of a COVID infection.

A Canadian paper from 2024 said: "Unvaccinated respondents were less likely to have received serum cholesterol (aOR 0.69; 95 % CI [0.50-0.70), serum glucose (aOR 0.65; 95 % CI [0.56-0.75]), or blood pressure measurements (aOR 0.47; 95 % CI [0.33-0.66]); and were less likely to have received breast cancer (aOR 0.35; 95 % CI [0.25-0.48]), colorectal cancer (aOR 0.52; 95 % CI [0.46-0.60]) and prostate cancer screening (aOR 0.61; 95 % CI [0.48-0.76])." [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X24000070]

In the Korean study, unvaccinated and vaccinated people had similar cancer incidence during the second half of the observation period, but the difference in overall incidence was mainly because unvaccinated people had very low incidence during the first 3 months of the observation period. It may have been because the observation period of vaccinated people started from the day after the primary series was completed, but the observation period of unvaccinated people always started from January 1st 2022. The first two major COVID waves in Korea were the Delta wave which peaked around December 2021 and the first Omicron wave which peaked around March 2022, so at the start of the observation period in unvaccinated people, people may have been afraid to get screening because of COVID. I didn't find monthly cancer screening or incidence data for 2022, but in the spring of 2020, there was a major dip in screenings performed because of the first COVID scare. [https://www.irjournal.org/journal/view.php?number=1091] Because of COVID, many people who were eligible to get cancer screening in 2021 missed the deadline to get screening before the end of 2021, so the deadline was exceptionally extended up to June 2022. [https://blog.ibk.co.kr/2703]

Viviane's avatar

So true, thanks, happy to read it. Especially about ES with his always uptrending graphs, even before statistics are out 😅

But the truth, which lies somewhere in the middle between two sides that exaggerate in opposite directions, is less widely relayed… at least on X!

I read this Korean study too. In addition to all that, I was stunned that the administration of booster doses is associated with a notable decrease in the risk of leukemia. I found no biological rationale for suche a decrease (especially a significant one, 0.56) between the group without and with a booster.

One booster, and presto, a 44% reduction in leukemia risk compared to those who received two doses?

This suggests potentially random results, or a detection bias or selection bias.

I took a look at the context:

South Korea’s population is rapidly aging—it is one of the countries most affected by this phenomenon worldwide. The majority of cancer cases occur after age 65, which constitutes a potential bias.

But if boosters caused a significant increase in cancer cases, shouldn’t that also be visible in 2022?

I wondered when they had been administered?

Starting in November 2021. As of December 31, 2021, there were 35.1 booster shots per 100 residents.

Then in 2022, this figure rose to 79.79 booster shots per 100 residents in early December (no data available thereafter).

Thus, the majority of booster shots were administered in 2022, and it seems unlikely that the 2021 increase can be entirely attributed to the booster shots administered in November and December, too short a timeframe.

The 2022 increase is small and consistent with an increase linked to population aging.

The timing doesn't work out.

No dose-related extent of the observed reaction, if only in 2021 with less boosters than in 2022. (Per Bradford Hill criteria).

henjin's avatar

The hazard ratio for leukemia is barely significant, because the 95% confidence interval is 0.35-0.92: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40364-025-00831-w/tables/1. In the table with the hazard ratios for booster doses, 3 out of 30 types of cancer have a significant HR. But if you had 30 random sets of observations, the expected number of sets that would be significant by chance would be 1.5.

There is no routine screening program for leukemia in South Korea, but leukemia is often detected in blood tests that are performed as part of general health screening, or that are performed in cases where leukemia is specifically suspected. So leukemia might not be affected too much by a bias where unvaccinated people are less likely to get cancer screening than vaccinated people, unless unvaccinated people are also less likely to get general health screening.

(I'm sorry for replying to the comment that OpenVAET deleted because it was off-topic, but Makis has presented the Korean study as evidence that COVID vaccines cause turbo cancer.)

gail's avatar

See John Fleetwood substacks. He has documented extensively on the C 19 vaccines and turbo cancers. also Karen Kingston Substack, X Pfizer employee whistleblower. Judy Mikoviks, phD, molecular biologist whistleblower who wrote plague of corruption and other books documenting SV40 Simeon monkey virus contamination way before Covid vaccines that caused cancer. A book called “Dr. Mary’s monkey“ documenting Dr. Alton Ochsner and his bio weapons research using monkeys in New Orleans Louisiana. Some say he was “Dr. Fauci number one“ way before Fauci was on the scene.

Genervter Bürger's avatar

Great article, my friend.

OpenVAET's avatar

Thanks my good sir, unpleasant, but had to be done.

Apologies for the reversal delay on other topics, totally overloaded last week, homework & back to you soon.