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Josh Guetzkow's avatar

What evidence would convince you that the virus hasd ever been properly:

1.isolated

2. purified

3. proven to be a cause of disease

GeoffPainPhD's avatar

I discuss the award-winning paper from researchers in Australia who were the first outside of China to Isolate, Culture, Purify, Sequence and Prove the virus causes Fatal disease. They went further, exporting Live Virus all around the world as reference material.

https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/first-detected-covid19-case-arrived

Adam Antium's avatar

PCR cannot isolate a virus... all PCR does is make copies of things that already exist but it cannot and does not find new viruses and isolate them.

GeoffPainPhD's avatar

If you read the paper you will see that the scientists did not use PCR to isolate the Wuhan virus. They swabbed it, got it to pose for photos using TEM, then did all the lovely science. Read more, be happy.

Adam Antium's avatar

This is what the paper says... "The man gave a nasopharyngeal swab and sputum sample (which carried far higher viral load), and he tested positive for SARS‐CoV‐2. Reverse Transcription Polymerase Chain Reaction (RTPCR) was used"...

So, how can he test positive for a virus that hasn't been proven to exist??? Vero cell culture isn't isolation, TEM pictures are not isolation... how can you have a picture of something that you haven't prove exists??? The study is flawed... So again, there is no isolated virus anywhere... https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/

OpenVAET's avatar

If you could restrain to get too far of the point of the current article and avoid to spam my mailbox with useless comments regarding said point, it would avoid me to take a week ban measure to prevent said spamming.

Adam Antium's avatar

i hope you don't ban me. All my comments are focused on the article... there cannot be a vaccine if there is no isolated virus and no one has isolated the virus so the vaccine is just toxic concoction with zero relation to any virus.

GeoffPainPhD's avatar

You are truly a suspect agent. TEM = picture of virus isolate on swab, placed into microscope. Do you have a piece of string tied around your toe? Culture = letting the virus multiply by giving it host cells to invade. Fluoride Free Peel is a great disappointment.

Josh Guetzkow's avatar

Geoff you are wasting your time. No evidence you offer will ever be enough, so if you choose to engage, I think it's best to just ask them what kind of evidence would convince them. I don't think they really have an idea of what it would actually take to 'isolate' a virus or prove that one exists to their satisfaction. I've certainly never heard it from them. They just say it has never been done, and any evidence you offer will be dismissed since it isn't "isolated."

Dr Ah Kahn Syed's avatar

Great work again guys!

Crixcyon's avatar

If you want a real challenge, try and prove that ANY pfizer drug trial has ever been honest and above board. This is a company that has been severely corrupt for the last 4 decades.

Dr Ah Kahn Syed's avatar

P<0.0000000000001 😉

John Davison's avatar

As have they all.

Unfortunately for humanity they've a very good level of expertise.

That said, they don't really need to be that good to fool the average joe.

And now they've captured the MSM.

H8SBAD's avatar

Awesome research! Thanks for doing the work and sharing. Remember, the lack of “likes” doesn’t reflect poorly on your posts. Recognition by the masses requires a degree of accessibility that your work often doesn’t provide. The stats/math is often well above the average reader’s capabilities, but that doesn’t make your work any less important as a building block for our cause. This relative dynamic is more a reflection of the STEM neglect that dominates our system of public education. All I’m trying to say is that your work is important and appreciated. Thanks!

OpenVAET's avatar

Thanks - I'm aware it's a bit difficult to read for most readers - but that those who are actively investigating will be reading.

Anyway, I'm coming from a year getting banned on Twitter & shadow-banned on Gettr - everything past 10 likes is a viral success according to my criterion :p

H8SBAD's avatar

Agreed and understood.

Tamsin's avatar

As a companion piece (in my head), from Rounding the Earth last August,

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/nonsensical-procedurally-invalid

"Multiple times over the past few months, Chris [Masterjohn] and I have been in email exchanges about a suspicion that the vaccines change the sensitivity/specificity calculations for PCR (or other) tests, thus resulting in massive changes in false negative rates in particular."

So, it turns out the way vaccination "confounds" PCR test results is simultaneously less scientifically amazing and more ethically appalling?

OpenVAET's avatar

My opinion isn't made on the topic and we're getting far from my expertise, but following the debates with interest - only people I respect deeply in there.

Thanks for your comment; flattering evocation from your head !

GeoffPainPhD's avatar

Great work Openvaet!

SeeingTruth's avatar

Question: is anyone specifically studying the specific Pfizer or Moderna "tags" with time?

OpenVAET's avatar

I would turn an eye to other major pharmaceutical corporate - they are likely very aware of everything we discuss.

Regulatory agencies, given their contestable diligence to do their most basic jobs, I strongly doubt it. Smaller organizations, unlikely as well, these are rather expensive and unpopular researches...

Anyway, the Mouse & other researchers I consulted are sufficient opinions for me to know it was possible (and likely done in that purpose).

Josh Guetzkow's avatar

I don't know what you mean by studying "tags" with time.

Lord Adrok's avatar

Here's the biggest fraud, there is NO covid; to date, no virus has ever been properly isolated and purified and proven to be a cause of disease... so how could there possibly be a vaccine for it?? Start from the beginning, not the middle.

OpenVAET's avatar

Thanks for your productive input. Don't hesitate to start your own Substack to enlight the public on your insights, meanwhile we will do our small part with data we have.

Josh Guetzkow's avatar

You are wasting your time. Lord Adrok has never been proven to exist or be the cause of comments on Substack.

Dr Ah Kahn Syed's avatar

😂😂

OpenVAET's avatar

I'm quite new on Substack, thanks once more for your wisdom :D

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OpenVAET's avatar

Replying a bit late to your comment, I'm aware, Katherine,

But at this time I hadn't seen a lot to answer ; I fail to understand why "studying the frauds and being able to demonstrate them to people" doesn't matter.

But further, to answer this note - your replies being locked to paid followers...

https://substack.com/@bailiwicknews/note/c-41675137

Have you considered the hypothesis that the infiltration was anterior ; and that Sasha may have caused tremendous damages to your meticulous work with her nanobots junks, stealing Augusto Roux's work, defaming Geoff Pain, and other amusements ..?

My apologies for a message which I know will be unpleasant, I remain a fan.